A compilation of tips on producing models of specific types of Green Bay
Route cars.
The suitability of the models are graded on a scale from 'A' (exact), 'B'
(close), 'C' (stand-in) and 'E' (for effort, meaning a kit-bash). See
this page for more details on the grades.
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Accurail
#3100 - 40' Plug Door Boxcar · HO scale |
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GBW 21000 to 21038
- RBL · 40'-0" IL · 5 tons · 3330 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
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Accurail
#3400 - 40-Foot PS-1 Boxcar · HO scale |
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GBW 650 to 691
- XME · 40'-6" IL · 50 tons · 3903 cu ft · more
prototype info
The Accurail car is a good stand stand-in, but has an
8-foot wide door. |
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GBW 900 to 949
- XME · 40'-6" IL · 50 tons · 3883 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
These PS-1 boxcars had a 9-foot door, unusually wide for a
40-foot boxcar. The Accurail 40-Foot PS-1 Boxcar model's 8-foot door is
not wide enough and the sill is the wrong shape but it might make an OK
stand-in. |
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GBW 1000 to 1004
- XML · 40'-6" IL · 50 tons · 3927 cu ft · more
prototype info
An E&C Shops (also marketed by Branchline Trains) 50'
PS-1 kit with a 9-foot P-S door can be the basis for a kitbash project. See
how it can be done. |
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Accurail
#4100 - 40' Outside Braced Boxcars · HO scale |
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GBW 8000 to 8098
- XM · 40'-6" IL · 40 tons · 3443 cu ft · more
prototype info
The model can be improved by replacing the sloping center
sill supplied in the kit with a scratchbuilt straight sill. The kit is
available lettered for GB&W. |
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Accurail
#4800 - 40' Wood Refrigerator · HO scale |
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AW 3000 to 3004
- RB · 33'-0" IL · 35 tons · 1999 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
A close match - the Accurail model is actually based on
BREX 75000-75999 built 1926. |
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WRX 9000 to 9999
- RS · 33'-2 5/8 IL · 40 tons · 1970 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
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Accurail
#5000 - 50-Foot AAR Boxcar · HO scale |
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GBW 4100 to 4193
- XM · 50'-6" IL · 55 tons · 4860 cu ft · more
prototype info
Pretty well matches these 1970's era 50-foot cars, made
from stretched 40-footers. It has the correct roof/ends/door/riveted side
panels; the purist could shorten the side ladders and remove some of the
rivets to represent the welded center panels. Some cars were renumbered in
695- series in later years. |
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GBW 2900 to 2974
- XL · 50'-9" IL · 55 tons · 4846 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Could represent a stand-in for these cars, although the
8-foot door would be a foot too narrow for this particular prototype. |
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Accurail
#7000 - 6-Panel Boxcar / Wood Ends · HO scale |
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GBW 6000 to 6298
- XM · 40'-6" IL · 40 tons · 2955 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The prototype had lumber doors on one end. The model can be
improved by cutting down the fishbelly center sill to a simple straight
sill. |
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Accurail
#7100 - 6-Panel Boxcar / Dreadnaught Ends · HO
scale |
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GBW 8100 to 8198
- XM · 40'-6" IL · 40 tons · 3713 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Accurail car has early improved 4/4 dreadnaught ends,
the prototype has a prewar 3/3/3 style. The model can be improved by
replacing the sloping center sill supplied in the kit with a scratchbuilt
straight sill. |
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KGB 5500 to 5598
- XM · 40'-6" IL · 40 tons · 3713 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Close match - the Accurail car has early improved 4/4
dreadnaught ends, the prototype has a prewar 3/3/3 style. The model can be
improved by replacing the sloping center sill supplied in the kit with a
scratchbuilt straight sill. |
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Athearn #2903-J - 54' PS Covered
Hopper - Albert City Elev · HO scale |
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GBW 200 to 214
- LO · 100 tons · 4750 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Athearn 54' PS 3-Bay Covered Hopper is a good starting
point since it was available pre-painted for the Albert City Elevator
(#2903-J, now out of production). The Athearn car is a 16-rib model; the
prototype PS2CD/4750 has 18 ribs. The pre-painted Athearn model was part
of a 12-pack of colerful covered hoppers -- now out of production. |
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Athearn
#ATH1969 - 86' 4 Door High Cube Box · HO scale |
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GBW 103 to 105
- XML · 86'-6" IL · 70 tons · 10000 cu ft · more
prototype info
A close match for the prototype, except the model has
welded sides while the prototype was riveted. The undecorated kit is
currently out of production; decorated kits are available. |
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Athearn
#ATH5050 - 50' Box · HO scale |
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GBW 4200 to 4399
- XM · 50'-9" IL · 55 tons · 4885 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Athearn kit has the correct 5-5 Dreadnaught end. |
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Athearn
#ATH5407 - 34' 2 Bay Offset Hopper · HO scale |
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KGB 401 to 420
- HM · 33'-0" IL · 50 tons · 2145 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The flat end Athearn hoppers are a close match, although
the offset transition at the end is little different than the prototype,
and the model has 9 stiffeners at the top of the car while the prototype
had 7. |
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Athearn
#ATH91400 - 50' FMC 5347 Box · HO scale |
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GBW 7000 to 7049
- XM · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Athearn ready-to-run cars are an exact match. The
Athearn boxcar was originally made by MDC (#1950). |
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GBW 8000 to 8199
- XM · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Athearn ready-to-run cars are an exact match. The
Athearn boxcar was originally made by MDC (#1950). |
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GBW 8302 to 8424
- XM · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Athearn ready-to-run cars are an exact match. The
Athearn boxcar was originally made by MDC (#1950). |
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GBW 10100 to 10243
- XP · 50'-6" IL · 98 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info
The Athearn ready-to-run cars are an exact match. The
Athearn boxcar was originally made by MDC (#1950). |
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GBW 11000 to 11001
- XP · 50'-6" IL · 98.5 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info
The Athearn ready-to-run cars are an exact match. The
Athearn boxcar was originally made by MDC (#1950). |
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GBW 16000 to 16299
- XP · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Athearn ready-to-run cars are an exact match. The
Athearn boxcar was originally made by MDC (#1950). |
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GBW 7450 to 7649
- XM · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5288 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Has the right ends, doors, and 14 panels to serve as a
stand-in for these cars. The car can be improved considerably by removing
the last rib on the side of the car where the ends attach. Drill little
holes to represent the plug welds along the edge where the end attaches to
the side. The roof can be improved by substituting a Branchline 50 ft
overhanging diagonal panel roof (part #100006), and the sill reinforcement
can be modeled with styrene. The Athearn boxcar was originally made by MDC
(#1950). |
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Athearn
#ATHG4070 - 60' ICC High Cube Box · HO scale |
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GBW 90 to 99
- XM · 60'-10" IL · 77 tons · 6357 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Athearn's ICC 60' boxcar has a 12-foot door, GBW prototype
cars had 10' doors. |
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Atlas
#1650 - 60' Auto Parts Boxcar · HO scale |
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GBW 210 to 219
- XAP · 60'-9" IL · 90 tons · 6190 cu ft · more
prototype info
The Atlas 60' ACF auto parts boxcar is the successor design
to the ACF cars the GBW purchased. |
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Atlas
#1750 - Evans 53' Double Plug-Door Box Car · HO
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GBW 2400 to 2449
- XL · 50'-6" IL · 75 tons · 4988 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
These cars are close, but have double doors centered on the
sides while the prototype has offset 7'+8' doors. The models have
different side sill and ends. The Atlas model is based on a 52' Evans car
from the late 1970s. The Atlas model is based on a 52' Evans car from the
late 1970s. |
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Atlas
#1850 - 50-Ton 2-Bay Offset-Side Open Hopper · HO
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KGB 401 to 420
- HM · 33'-0" IL · 50 tons · 2145 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
A close match, although the offset transition at the end is
little different than the prototype, and the model has 9 stiffeners at the
top of the car while the prototype had 7. The end details on the Atlas
model are a closer match to the prototype than the Athearn car. |
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Atlas
#918 - ACF 50'-6" Boxcar · HO scale |
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GBW 7050 to 7199
- XM · 50'-7" IL · 77 tons · 5300 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Close match; other than a different sill arrangement the
GBW cars match this model of an ACF 5300 cu.ft.plate C exterior post
boxcar |
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Bowser
#1-56200 - Pennsylvania Class GLa 2-Bay Open Hopper
· HO scale |
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GBW 4801 to 4879
- HM · 30'-5" IL · 50 tons · 1682 cu ft · more
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GBW 4901 to 4913
- HM · 30'-5" IL · 50 tons · 1785 cu ft · more
prototype info
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KGB 4501 to 4569
- HM · 30'-5" IL · 50 tons · 1682 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
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Branchline
Trains #1000A - 50' Single Door Boxcar - Straight Sill
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GBW 112000 to
112012 - XML · 50'-6" IL · 50 tons
· 4872 cu ft · more prototype
info and images
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Branchline
Trains #1200 - 40' ACF Reefer · HO scale |
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AW 3000 to 3004
- RB · 33'-0" IL · 35 tons · 1999 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Branchline kit is an accurate match for the ACF
prototypes. It is available lettered in two WRX schemes. |
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WRX 9000 to 9999
- RS · 33'-2 5/8 IL · 40 tons · 1970 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
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Branchline
Trains #1700 - 50' AAR Plug Door Boxcar · HO scale |
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GBW 2500 to 2699
- XL · 50'-6" IL · 55 tons · 4955 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Originally double-door boxcars, rebuilt as single plug door
cars prior to going on GBW roster. Modeling would be a challenge: Start
with a Branchline boxcar to get the riveted carsides, and sand off the
riveted panel seams where the auxiliary sliding doors were filled in with
welded sheets. Substitute InterMountain PS-1 ends, but unsure if the roof
was still Pullman panels or if it had been replaced with Stanray diagonal
panels. You will have to scratch the door as it has never been done on any
model. |
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Con-Cor
#1-009618 - 60' Greeenville Auto Parts Boxcar · HO
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GBW 200 to 209
- XAP · 60'-9" IL · 90 tons · 6000 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The model sits about 6-8 inches too low. The model is for a
car with 41'-3" truck spacing; the GBW cars had 46'-3" spacing.
The car can be modifed by cutting a section of underframe from just behind
the bolster towards the coupler box and flipping it around. The Con-Cor
boxcar was originally made by Robins Rails (#9600). |
Detail Associates
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Detail Associates #200 - 40' General
Service Gondola with Composite Sides · HO scale |
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KGB 7001 to 7039
- GH · 40'-0" IL · 50 tons · 1597 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
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Details West #500 - 50' Double Plug
Door Box Car · HO scale |
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GBW 2400 to 2449
- XL · 50'-6" IL · 75 tons · 4988 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
These cars are close, but have double doors centered on the
sides while the prototype has offset 7'+8' doors. The models have
different side sill and ends. The Details West model is now offered by
Athearn as a ready-to-run model. |
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GBW 22040 to 22089
- RBL · 50'-0" IL · 70 tons · 4589 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Details West car (now Athearn RTR) can be stand-in for
these cars. The straight sills and equal-sized doors (the prototype doors
were 8'+6') are incorrect. The Details West model is now offered by
Athearn as a ready-to-run model. |
E & C Shops
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E & C Shops - 50-foot
Pullman-Standard Boxcar · HO scale |
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GBW 900 to 949
- XME · 40'-6" IL · 50 tons · 3883 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
An E&C Shops (also marketed by Branchline Trains) 50'
PS-1 kit with a 9-foot P-S door can be the basis for a kitbash project. See
how it can be done. Out of production. Also marketed by Branchline
Trains. The LBF #1100 PS-1 50' boxcar seems similar. |
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Eel River #100U - 62'-1'' Beer Car w/
12'-0'' Doors · HO scale |
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GBW 50000 to 50049
- RBL · 52'-6" IL · 68.5 tons · 5327 cu ft · more
prototype info
Starting with an Eel River Models Beer Car with 12 foot
door, remove one bay from each end using the extra rib as a cutting guide.
Add a Railbox boxcar style end (an easy scratch or cut one off an MDC or
Athearn body), and some rectangles from plastic sheet for the door stops.
Use an Accurail 50 foot diagonal panel roof. |
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Funaro
and Camerlengo #6180 - Wood Seley Hopper · HO scale |
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GBW 4037 to 4075
- HM · 30'-9" IL · 50 tons · 1579 cu ft · more
prototype info
The F&C model represents a hopper with metal ends; the
GBW hoppers had wood ends. |
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InterMountain - 4750 C.F. 3-Bay
Covered Hopper · HO scale |
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GBW 200 to 214
- LO · 100 tons · 4750 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Exact match for these pink covered hoppers. |
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InterMountain #40495 - 40' PS-1
Boxcar 7' Door · HO scale |
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GBW 650 to 691
- XME · 40'-6" IL · 50 tons · 3903 cu ft · more
prototype info
Intermountain makes a kit with the correct 7-foot door for
these ex-NYNH&H PS-1 boxcars. |
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InterMountain #40499 - 40' PS-1
Boxcar 6' Door · HO scale |
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GBW 700 to 899
- XM · 40'-6" IL · 50 tons · 3898 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Use a 6' seven-panel Superior door. |
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InterMountain #40999 - 50' PS-1
Single Door Boxcar · HO scale |
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GBW 500 to 519
- XAP · 50'-6" IL · 70 tons · 4923 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The model has a roofwalk and full-height ladders which is
how the prototype was delivered; the roofwalk was removed and the ladders
were shortened around 1970 when the time the cars were shopped and painted
yellow. |
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Kadee
#3997 - 40' PS-1 Box Car · HO scale |
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GBW 700 to 899
- XM · 40'-6" IL · 50 tons · 3898 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Use a 6' seven-panel Superior door. |
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Kadee
#6100 - 50' PS-1 Gradual Side Sill Boxcar · HO
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GBW 500 to 519
- XAP · 50'-6" IL · 70 tons · 4923 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The model has a roofwalk and full-height ladders which is
how the prototype was delivered; the roofwalk was removed and the ladders
were shortened around 1970 when the time the cars were shopped and painted
yellow. |
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Kadee #7001
- 50 Ton AAR Standard Open Bay Hopper · HO scale |
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KGB 401 to 420
- HM · 33'-0" IL · 50 tons · 2145 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
A close match, although the offset transition at the end is
little different than the prototype, and the model has 9 stiffeners at the
top of the car while the prototype had 7. The end details on the Kadee
model are a closer match to the prototype than the Athearn car. |
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LBF
#1200 - ACF 50'-6'' Boxcar · HO scale |
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GBW 7050 to 7199
- XM · 50'-7" IL · 77 tons · 5300 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The LBF model is supposed to be an exact match for these
cars, but the model has flaws in details such as half-round side posts,
poor doors and roof details. |
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LBF
#1910 - 52'-6'' Mill Gondola - fluted sides and strap
ends · HO scale |
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GBW 5500 to 5534
- GB · 52'-6" IL · 98 tons · 2500 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The LBF general service gondola with fluted sides is a good
match for these GBW gondolas. Use the 'strap end' version. |
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Life-Like
#21899 - 50' Single Door Box Car · HO scale |
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GBW 112000 to
112012 - XML · 50'-6" IL · 50 tons
· 4872 cu ft · more prototype
info and images
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MDC
Roundhouse #1340 - 40' Gondola · HO scale |
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KGB 7101 to 7199
- GB · 38'-7 1/2" IL · 57.5 tons · 1547 cu ft · more
prototype info
There is no exact match for these N&W-designed
gondolas, but the MDC kit (based on a late-1940s C&O prototype) could
serve as a rough stand-in model. It has ten panels and a 40' length. |
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MDC Roundhouse #1980 - 50' FMC Box
Car - Double Door · HO scale |
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AHW 4000 to 4099
- XM · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5077 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Close match. The MDC boxcar is actually a model of a design
that FMC cataloged but never built (50'-6" IL Plate C box with a
centered 16' door opening). The the CUSHION SERVICE lettering from the DM
Custom Decal sets isn't appropriate for these cars; the actual lettering
on those cars is a vertically-compressed font. Most MDC products are now
part of Athearn's catalog; unsure if this boxcar is currently offered by
Athearn. |
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Modelers
Choice #250001 - Thrall 14-panel Gondola · HO scale |
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GBW 20 to 29
- GB · 52'-6" IL · 100 tons · 2094 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The kit contains pre-cut styrene sides, ribs, two floor
pieces, bolster pieces, injection molded ends and detailed instructions.
The modeler must supply additional detail parts, paint and decals to
complete the model. |
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Modelers
Choice #250005 - Thrall 15-panel Gondola - 2000 CuFt
· HO scale |
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GBW 30 to 39
- GB · 52'-6" IL · 77 tons · 2340 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The kit has the correct length and width and 15 side
panels, but is based on a 2000 cu.ft. prototype (GN 78800-78999). The GBW
gondolas were a larger 2300 cu.ft. type and were 8" taller. |
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Caboose #34516 - R-70-15 57' Mechanical Refrigerator
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GBW 11100 to 11235
- RPL · 50'-0" IL · 66 tons · 4050 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
A close match for these ex-BAR cars. The plug door is
slightly different. BAR decalds for this car are available from Microscale
for making a moidel of these cars. |
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Red
Caboose #RC-5100 - General Service Gondola w/Composite
Sides · HO scale |
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KGB 7001 to 7039
- GH · 40'-0" IL · 50 tons · 1597 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
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Red
Caboose #RC-8900 - AC&F 4-3-1 8' Door Welded Box Car
· HO scale |
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GBW 600 , 604, 610 to
624 - XM · 40'-6" IL · 55 tons ·
3956 cu ft · more prototype info and
images
Correct roof, ends, and door -- although the sill shape is
incorrect. |
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Sunshine
#75.2 - Twin bay chiseled side hopper · HO scale |
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KGB 401 to 420
- HM · 33'-0" IL · 50 tons · 2145 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Exact match for the IC / GBW prototypes. |
Train Miniature
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Train Miniature #720-2850 - 40' Hart
Gondola · HO scale |
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KGB 7001 to 7039
- GH · 40'-0" IL · 50 tons · 1597 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Surprisingly, the Walthers Silver Streak (metal & wood)
and Train-Miniature (plastic) models that were advertised as Hart Gondolas
were not that good of a match for these prototypes. The truss side sills
need to be removed, the frame is very different (GBW cars appear to have a
deep fishbelly center sill, similar to Accurail parts), and the side post
arrangement doesn't match. Out of production. |
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Walthers #929-500 - 40' Hart Gondola
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KGB 7001 to 7039
- GH · 40'-0" IL · 50 tons · 1597 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Surprisingly, the Walthers Silver Streak (metal & wood)
and Train-Miniature (plastic) models that were advertised as Hart Gondolas
were not that good of a match for these prototypes. The truss side sills
need to be removed, the frame is very different (GBW cars appear to have a
deep fishbelly center sill, similar to Accurail parts), and the side post
arrangement doesn't match. Out of production. |
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Walthers
#932-3270 - 65' Mill Gondola · HO scale |
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GBW 30 to 39
- GB · 52'-6" IL · 77 tons · 2340 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Shorten the Walthers 65' gondola per the 'Two Soo Line
Thrall gondolas' article in the April 2001 Railroad Model Craftsman. |
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Walthers
#932-3603 - 50' North American Ext. Post Insul. Boxcar
· HO scale |
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GBW 22000 to 22028
- RBL · 50'-1" IL · 70 tons · 4589 cu ft · more
prototype info
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Walthers
#932-40254 - Thrall 53' Gondola · HO scale |
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GBW 20 to 29
- GB · 52'-6" IL · 100 tons · 2094 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
A a very close model match. Ready-to-run version of the
Walthers #932-5900 kit. Available in a GBW paint scheme from the 1980s. |
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Walthers
#932-4700 - 50' Waffle Box Car · HO scale |
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GBW 2700 to 2709
- XL · 50'-6" IL · 75.5 tons · 5050 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Seems to be a good match for these cars. |
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GBW 2710 to 2729
- XL · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5238 cu ft · more
prototype info
Seems to be a good match for these cars. At one time
Walthers offered this kit in GBW lettering (#933-4711). |
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Walthers
#932-4771 - 50' Fruit Growers Express Insulated Box Car
· HO scale |
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GBW 22090 to 22091
- RBL · 51'-1" IL · 69.5 tons · 4843 cu ft · more
prototype info
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WRX 9350 , 9351
- RBL · 51'-1 7/8" IL · 77 tons · 4870 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
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Walthers
#932-5350 - Jordan Spreader · HO scale |
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KGB 190
- · more prototype info and
images
The air tank on the back of the spreader should be
vertical. The Walthers kit includes the correct air tank. |
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Walthers
#932-5900 - 53' Thrall Gondola - smooth sides · HO
scale |
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GBW 20 to 29
- GB · 52'-6" IL · 100 tons · 2094 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
A very close model. The Walthers model is currently out of
production. |
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Westerfield
#10600 - Inside Stake 36' Coal Gondola · HO scale |
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GBW 4609 to 4647
- · 36'-0" IL · 40 tons · more
prototype info
Fairly close to the GBW prototype. |
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Fox
Valley Models #FVM8000 - FMC 5347 Cu Ft Single Door
Boxcar · N scale |
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GBW 7000 to 7049
- XM · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Fox Valley Models ready-to-run cars are an exact match.
Available in a GBW paint scheme with four different road numbers. |
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GBW 8000 to 8199
- XM · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Fox Valley Models ready-to-run cars are an exact match. |
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GBW 8302 to 8424
- XM · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Fox Valley Models ready-to-run cars are an exact match. |
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GBW 10100 to 10243
- XP · 50'-6" IL · 98 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info
The Fox Valley Models ready-to-run cars are an exact match. |
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GBW 11000 to 11001
- XP · 50'-6" IL · 98.5 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info
The Fox Valley Models ready-to-run cars are an exact match. |
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GBW 16000 to 16299
- XP · 50'-6" IL · 77 tons · 5347 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
The Fox Valley Models ready-to-run cars are an exact match. |
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Red
Caboose #RN-15600 - 18-Rib, 4750 Cu.Ft. PS-2CD 3-Bay
Covered Hopper · N scale |
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GBW 200 to 214
- LO · 100 tons · 4750 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Exact match for these pink covered hoppers. |
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Trainworx
#1900 - Thrall 4 door 86 foot high cube box car · N
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GBW 100 to 102
- XML · 86'-6" IL · 70 tons · 10000 cu ft · more
prototype info
A close match for the prototype, except the model has
welded sides while the prototype was riveted. |
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MTH
#20-98385 - Jordan Spreader · O scale |
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KGB 190
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images
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American
Z Line #90903 - PS-2 CD 4750 Cu ft. Hopper · Z
scale |
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GBW 200 to 214
- LO · 100 tons · 4750 cu ft · more
prototype info and images
Exact match. |