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Passenger car roster of the Green Bay Route.


Passenger Cars

KGB 60 or 74

The "Grab Baggage & Walk" never was known for its passenger service, and some of the records of early passenger cars are as spotty as the GB&W's service. This roster is incomplete, especially with regards to the pre-1940 cars. If anyone can fill in details, please contact me at mark@mathu.com. Many of the post-World War II cars are shown in the 1947 Equipment Diagrams.

The Green Bay & Western originally ran passenger-only trains but after 1934 the only service remaining was a mixed train each way across the state in the afternoon which also carried mail. The uncertainties of the amount of switching required at each station made taking the trip unreliable and passenger service ended for good on April 4, 1949.

Much of the early equipment came from the Hicks Locomotive and Car Works of Chicago, and its successor (after 1911) Central Locomotive and Car Works. A few final cars came from American Car & Foundry. All of them were wood sheathed cars, 65 feet in length or less.

Early passenger cars had several paint schemes, including Tuscan, ruby red and gold, but by the 1920s the equipment was painted dark green. This scheme continued until passenger service ended in 1949; equipment demoted to maintenance-of-way duties were typically painted either boxcar red (most) or bright red (X22, X50).

Several cars were rebuilt late in life, usually reconfigured to mail cars as passenger service dried up. Most notable were mail/baggage cars #21-23 which were reconfigured from 50- series coaches in the 1920s. All three are preserved.

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Marks Numbers Type MCB Designation Length Built Builder Notes
01 I&N 1 pass.-baggage CA 40 1889.06 Ohio Falls Car Co. Originally GB&M; to I&N in 1893. To GB&W in 1914 and used on Iola local trains until 1930s. Later used as a depot in New Franken.
02 GB&W 5, 6 coach 1896.07 Ohio Falls Car Co. Delivered painted ruby red. Cost $3400 each.
03 GB&W 9 to 12 mail MA 33'-0" Last cars retired 1929-30.
04 KGB&W 13 baggage
05 KGB&W 14 mail-baggage
06 GB&W 15 to 19 baggage BE 49'-0" #15 rebuilt as mail-baggage by 1913.
07 GB&W 20, 21 mail-baggage 60'-0" 1908 Hicks See GB&W 52-54.
08 A&W 21 Later boarding car A&W B-173. Scrapped in 1935.
09 GB&W 22 mail-baggage 60'-0" 1904 Hicks See GB&W 51.
10 KGB&W 22, 23 mail-baggage
11 GB&W 23 mail-baggage 60'-0" 1909.03 Hicks See KGB&W #77.
12 GB&W 24 pass.-baggage Retired by 1917.
13 GB&W 24 pass.-baggage From Waupaca-Green Bay RR merger in 1922.
14 GB&W 25, 26 pass.-baggage CA 51'-6" 1899.05 Hicks Painted tuscan red when delivered.
15 GB&W 27 pass.-baggage CA Under 60 ft 1903.10 Hicks
16 GB&W 30, 32 mail-baggage MB #32 was a originially coach.
17 GB&W 31 to 34 coach PN 44'-0" #32 rebuilt as mail-baggage by 1917.
18 GB&W 35 coach PN 44'-0"
19 KGB&W 40, 41 coach 51'-6" 1891 Ohio Falls Car Co. Six coaches total, KGB&W 40,41 and GB&W 42-45. Cost $3940 each. Painted tuscan red with gold lettering about 1900. Some survived into early 1930s as work equipment.
20 GB&W 42 to 45 coach PA 51'-6" 1891 Ohio Falls Car Co. See KGB&W 40,41.
21 KGB&W 46, 47 coach PN Assigned to GB&W by 1913.
22 GB&W 50 pass.-baggage CA 64'-8 1/2" Central Car & Loco (Hicks) Renumbered to X50 in 1943. Sold in 1968 or 1969 to Trans-Northern and moved to Houghton, Mich. Sold to Scott & Bearskin Lake tourist railroad and moved to Scott, Arkansas in the spring of 1973. Scrapped in 1970s in Kansas City, Mo.
23 GB&W 51 coach PA 59'-0" 1904 Hicks Built as first-class coach GBW #51 by Hicks. 4-wheel steel-plate wood frame trucks, steam heat, oil lamps of the 2-burner chandelier type. Rebuilt as mail-baggage with steel underframe and renumbered #22 in 1930. Delco light plant (motor-driven generator) added to provide self-contained lights for the mail-baggage car and adjoining coach in 1937. Placed in non-revenue work train service in 1948, renumbered to X-22. Additional windows and removal of mail doors and partition. The X-22 was assigned to the GB&W's system paint gang. Donated by the GBW to the Wisconsin Historical Society in 1970 for display at Stonefield Village in Cassville, Wis.
24 GB&W 52 to 54 coach PA 59'-0" 1908 Hicks Originally part of #52-54 coaches, at least three rebuilt/renumbered as #20-22 baggage/mail cars in 1929-30. #20 on display (private owner) in Rapid River, Mich.; #21 to #X21 in 1945.02, was renamed "Winona" and was the "rumpus car" in the GBW's Miller's Specials in the 1950s and 1960s; donated to National Railroad Museum in Green Bay in 1963.07.
25 KGB&W 55, 57 coach 60 ft 1906-1911 Hicks
26 GB&W 58 coach PA 59'-0" 1906-1911 Hicks
27 KGB&W 60 pass.-baggage 64'-8 1/2" Central Car & Loco (Hicks) Renumbered to X60 in 1943. Sold in 1968 or 1969 to Trans-Northern and moved to Houghton, Mich. Sold to Scott & Bearskin Lake tourist railroad and moved to Scott, Arkansas in the spring of 1973. Scrapped in 1970s in Kansas City, Mo.
28 KGB&W 64 coach 60 Originally #64, renumbered #109 in early 1940s. Converted to combination caboose-coach car in 1947. To Marquette & Huron Mountain RR #110 (ca. 1960?), now at Illinois Railway Museum.
29 KGB&W 74 pass.-baggage 64'-3" Hicks
30 KGB&W 75 mail-baggage 60'-0" Hicks
31 KGB&W 76 mail-baggage 60'-0" 1909.03 Hicks See KGB&W #77.
32 KGB&W 77 coach 60'-0" 1909.03 Hicks Originally #77, rebuilt as mail-baggage #23 in 1930, renumbered #76 at unknown date and then X76 in 1948. To Marquette & Huron Mountain RR in 1963. Now at Mid-Continent Railway Museum.
33 KGB&W 78 coach 1910 Hicks
34 A&W 84 coach Car body is part of one wall of a structure at a quarry just northeast of Sturgeon Bay, Wis.
35 KGB&W 86 coach 59'-3" 1914.08 Central Car & Loco (Hicks) Converted to combination caboose-coach car in 1947.
36 A&W 90 mail-baggage Retired ca. 1938.
37 A&W 94 coach 60 1893 To GBW 94 in 1906; rebuilt in 1916; to X94 1935.01; sold to A&W on 1947.05.31; retired 1950.03.31. Sold to a naval architect for use as an office and rested next to the siding in Sawyer until it was moved to Green Quarry north of Sawyer where it still rests today without trucks, part of a pole-barn.
38 A&W 96 pass.-baggage Retired ca. 1938.
39 GB&W 99 business PC 48'-10" Retired mid-1940s.
40 GB&W 106 coach 59'-5" 1914.07 Central Car & Loco (Hicks) Ended service in 1970s as flatcar X106.
41 GB&W 107, 108 coach 59'-5" 1917, 1918 AC&F Very similar to #86 & #106. #108 to X108 1941.03. #107 converted to combination caboose-coach car in 1947.
42 GB&W 109 caboose-coach 60 See KGB&W 64.
43 GB&W 600 business 1918.12 AC&F Acquired mid-1940s.
 

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