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Passenger car roster of the Green Bay Route.
The "Grab Baggage & Walk" never was known for its passenger
service, and some of the records of early passenger cars are as spotty as the
GB&W's service. This roster is incomplete, especially with regards to the
pre-1940 cars. If anyone can fill in details, please contact me at mark@mathu.com.
Many of the post-World War II cars are shown in the 1947 Equipment Diagrams.
The Green Bay & Western originally ran passenger-only trains but after
1934 the only service remaining was a mixed train each way across the state in
the afternoon which also carried mail. The uncertainties of the amount of
switching required at each station made taking the trip unreliable and passenger
service ended for good on April 4, 1949.
Much of the early equipment came from the Hicks Locomotive and Car Works of
Chicago, and its successor (after 1911) Central Locomotive and Car Works. A few
final cars came from American Car & Foundry. All of them were wood sheathed
cars, 65 feet in length or less.
Early passenger cars had several paint schemes, including Tuscan, ruby red
and gold, but by the 1920s the equipment was painted dark green. This scheme
continued until passenger service ended in 1949; equipment demoted to
maintenance-of-way duties were typically painted either boxcar red (most) or
bright red (X22, X50).
Several cars were rebuilt late in life, usually reconfigured to mail cars as
passenger service dried up. Most notable were mail/baggage cars #21-23 which
were reconfigured from 50- series coaches in the 1920s. All three are preserved.
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Marks |
Numbers |
Type |
MCB Designation |
Length |
Built |
Builder |
Notes |
| 01 |
I&N |
1 |
pass.-baggage |
CA |
40 |
1889.06 |
Ohio Falls Car Co. |
Originally GB&M; to I&N in 1893.
To GB&W in 1914 and used on Iola local trains until 1930s. Later
used as a depot in New Franken. |
| 02 |
GB&W |
5, 6 |
coach |
|
|
1896.07 |
Ohio Falls Car Co. |
Delivered painted ruby red. Cost $3400
each. |
| 03 |
GB&W |
9 to 12 |
mail |
MA |
33'-0" |
|
|
Last cars retired 1929-30. |
| 04 |
KGB&W |
13 |
baggage |
|
|
|
|
|
| 05 |
KGB&W |
14 |
mail-baggage |
|
|
|
|
|
| 06 |
GB&W |
15 to 19 |
baggage |
BE |
49'-0" |
|
|
#15 rebuilt as mail-baggage by 1913. |
| 07 |
GB&W |
20,
21 |
mail-baggage |
|
60'-0" |
1908 |
Hicks |
See GB&W 52-54. |
| 08 |
A&W |
21 |
|
|
|
|
|
Later boarding car A&W B-173. Scrapped
in 1935. |
| 09 |
GB&W |
22 |
mail-baggage |
|
60'-0" |
1904 |
Hicks |
See GB&W 51. |
| 10 |
KGB&W |
22, 23 |
mail-baggage |
|
|
|
|
|
| 11 |
GB&W |
23 |
mail-baggage |
|
60'-0" |
1909.03 |
Hicks |
See KGB&W #77. |
| 12 |
GB&W |
24 |
pass.-baggage |
|
|
|
|
Retired by 1917. |
| 13 |
GB&W |
24 |
pass.-baggage |
|
|
|
|
From Waupaca-Green Bay RR merger in 1922. |
| 14 |
GB&W |
25, 26 |
pass.-baggage |
CA |
51'-6" |
1899.05 |
Hicks |
Painted tuscan red when delivered. |
| 15 |
GB&W |
27 |
pass.-baggage |
CA |
Under 60 ft |
1903.10 |
Hicks |
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| 16 |
GB&W |
30, 32 |
mail-baggage |
MB |
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|
|
#32 was a originially coach. |
| 17 |
GB&W |
31 to 34 |
coach |
PN |
44'-0" |
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#32 rebuilt as mail-baggage by 1917. |
| 18 |
GB&W |
35 |
coach |
PN |
44'-0" |
|
|
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| 19 |
KGB&W |
40, 41 |
coach |
|
51'-6" |
1891 |
Ohio Falls Car Co. |
Six coaches total, KGB&W 40,41 and
GB&W 42-45. Cost $3940 each. Painted tuscan red with gold lettering
about 1900. Some survived into early 1930s as work equipment. |
| 20 |
GB&W |
42 to 45 |
coach |
PA |
51'-6" |
1891 |
Ohio Falls Car Co. |
See KGB&W 40,41. |
| 21 |
KGB&W |
46, 47 |
coach |
PN |
|
|
|
Assigned to GB&W by 1913. |
| 22 |
GB&W |
50 |
pass.-baggage |
CA |
64'-8 1/2" |
|
Central Car & Loco (Hicks) |
Renumbered to X50 in 1943. Sold in 1968 or
1969 to Trans-Northern and moved to Houghton, Mich. Sold to Scott &
Bearskin Lake tourist railroad and moved to Scott, Arkansas in the
spring of 1973. Scrapped in 1970s in Kansas City, Mo. |
| 23 |
GB&W |
51 |
coach |
PA |
59'-0" |
1904 |
Hicks |
Built as first-class coach GBW #51 by
Hicks. 4-wheel steel-plate wood frame trucks, steam heat, oil lamps of
the 2-burner chandelier type. Rebuilt as mail-baggage with steel
underframe and renumbered #22 in 1930. Delco light plant (motor-driven
generator) added to provide self-contained lights for the mail-baggage
car and adjoining coach in 1937. Placed in non-revenue work train
service in 1948, renumbered to X-22. Additional windows and removal of
mail doors and partition. The X-22 was assigned to the GB&W's system
paint gang. Donated by the GBW to the Wisconsin Historical Society in
1970 for display at Stonefield Village in Cassville, Wis. |
| 24 |
GB&W |
52
to 54 |
coach |
PA |
59'-0" |
1908 |
Hicks |
Originally part of #52-54 coaches, at
least three rebuilt/renumbered as #20-22 baggage/mail cars in 1929-30.
#20 on display (private owner) in Rapid River, Mich.; #21 to #X21 in
1945.02, was renamed "Winona" and was the "rumpus
car" in the GBW's Miller's Specials in the 1950s and 1960s; donated
to National Railroad Museum in Green Bay in 1963.07. |
| 25 |
KGB&W |
55, 57 |
coach |
|
60 ft |
1906-1911 |
Hicks |
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| 26 |
GB&W |
58 |
coach |
PA |
59'-0" |
1906-1911 |
Hicks |
|
| 27 |
KGB&W |
60 |
pass.-baggage |
|
64'-8 1/2" |
|
Central Car & Loco (Hicks) |
Renumbered to X60 in 1943. Sold in 1968 or
1969 to Trans-Northern and moved to Houghton, Mich. Sold to Scott &
Bearskin Lake tourist railroad and moved to Scott, Arkansas in the
spring of 1973. Scrapped in 1970s in Kansas City, Mo. |
| 28 |
KGB&W |
64 |
coach |
|
60 |
|
|
Originally #64, renumbered #109 in early
1940s. Converted to combination caboose-coach car in 1947. To Marquette
& Huron Mountain RR #110 (ca. 1960?), now at Illinois Railway
Museum. |
| 29 |
KGB&W |
74 |
pass.-baggage |
|
64'-3" |
|
Hicks |
|
| 30 |
KGB&W |
75 |
mail-baggage |
|
60'-0" |
|
Hicks |
|
| 31 |
KGB&W |
76 |
mail-baggage |
|
60'-0" |
1909.03 |
Hicks |
See KGB&W #77. |
| 32 |
KGB&W |
77 |
coach |
|
60'-0" |
1909.03 |
Hicks |
Originally #77, rebuilt as mail-baggage
#23 in 1930, renumbered #76 at unknown date and then X76 in 1948. To
Marquette & Huron Mountain RR in 1963. Now at Mid-Continent Railway
Museum. |
| 33 |
KGB&W |
78 |
coach |
|
|
1910 |
Hicks |
|
| 34 |
A&W |
84 |
coach |
|
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Car body is part of one wall of a
structure at a quarry just northeast of Sturgeon Bay, Wis. |
| 35 |
KGB&W |
86 |
coach |
|
59'-3" |
1914.08 |
Central Car & Loco (Hicks) |
Converted to combination caboose-coach car
in 1947. |
| 36 |
A&W |
90 |
mail-baggage |
|
|
|
|
Retired ca. 1938. |
| 37 |
A&W |
94 |
coach |
|
60 |
1893 |
|
To GBW 94 in 1906; rebuilt in 1916; to X94
1935.01; sold to A&W on 1947.05.31; retired 1950.03.31. Sold to a
naval architect for use as an office and rested next to the siding in
Sawyer until it was moved to Green Quarry north of Sawyer where it still
rests today without trucks, part of a pole-barn. |
| 38 |
A&W |
96 |
pass.-baggage |
|
|
|
|
Retired ca. 1938. |
| 39 |
GB&W |
99 |
business |
PC |
48'-10" |
|
|
Retired mid-1940s. |
| 40 |
GB&W |
106 |
coach |
|
59'-5" |
1914.07 |
Central Car & Loco (Hicks) |
Ended service in 1970s as flatcar X106. |
| 41 |
GB&W |
107,
108 |
coach |
|
59'-5" |
1917, 1918 |
AC&F |
Very similar to #86 & #106. #108 to
X108 1941.03. #107 converted to combination caboose-coach car in 1947. |
| 42 |
GB&W |
109 |
caboose-coach |
|
60 |
|
|
See KGB&W 64. |
| 43 |
GB&W |
600 |
business |
|
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1918.12 |
AC&F |
Acquired mid-1940s. |
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